AO: institutional program administrators are grappling with how to get people to gain more critical thinking skills despite the heavy bureaucracies they have to navigate. But few to no programs facilitating data skills amongst non-tech researchers. Not enough attention paid to data management and archiving amongst non-archivists. There is data expertise available but it has not been developed into curriculum. Heavily disciplined silos within the academy. Outside of the institutions, researchers have trouble finding research resources, mentors, etc. more broadly, not to mention on the data side of things.